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PE-WJ-Diplo [OckerBoy]: Pig in a Poke
Date:Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:29:37 +0000

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Aachan I don't know what you paid Arizoma for Hiden City  just so you
could attack me (unless you a a defacto vassal to SA and paid nothing)
but you hae bought a pig in a poke.

Care to settle?


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PE-WJ-Diplo [Arizona]: OckerBoy in a poke
Date:Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:50:39 +0000

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OckerB - I have never sold anything to Aachan, but gift him some
regions, including Hidden City and your brigandish domain, as bonus to
this region in the hope what Aachan will restore supremacy of justice
there. So you are kind of Aachan property now :)




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PE-WJ-Diplo [James Howlett]: Political Savvy
Date:Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:18:33 +0000

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Wow, Arizona.  In one concise message you managed to make yourself
look like an evil slave trader with delusions of grandeur and you
cleared up that your alliance is just giving regions to Aachan so that
he can seal off hostile borders for you and get easy access to lesser
nations to wipe them out.  Just in case it hasn't been made entirely
clear, killing off the smaller nations just makes more region in
crisis events happen.  I don't think anyone really wants that.

For all of you nations not involved in any of the battles going on
lately or for anyone sitting on the fence, I think these words and
actions speak very clearly and very loudly about what kind of people
reside in the Secret Alliance and what kind of people choose to help
them.  I hope you all will rise up and make your voice heard.  Now is
the time for action.

Sincerely,
James Howlett


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PE-WJ-Diplo [Arizona]: James The Seer
Date:Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:11:35 +0000

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James Howlett - 
I was about to die of laughter, reading your message.
Please, put all this demagogy in your big [censored] and continue to
fight as a man.

- Arizona


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PE-WJ-Diplo [Iceman]: Pick well...
Date:Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:27:28 +0000

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So many messasges...  What is happening to our Universe???  It was all
so quite not so long ago...  Now we have falling skies, name calling,
and, dare I say it, even foul language (albiet masked...)  Even
various levels of open warfare!!!
Arizona, even you must admit your message was arrogant and aggressive!
Even with the smilie!  Perhaps provoked, but none-the-less....  But
your reply to James - both clever and maniacal at the same time!?!?  I
also found James message amusing - he does seem to have a way with
words...  Still, the underlying attitude you present may be
detrimental to your position - beware your public words!!!
To all the non-alliance leaders out there - there comes a time when
you have to pick a side...  SA, TS, yourself, another alliance -
eventually this Universe will end in a Big Crunch, and you can be
allied with the winners of this universe or not...  I don't know who
those winners will be, (cough, TS, cough :-) ) so keep watching
closely and when your time comes to pick a side, pick well...  But
unless you have delusions of grandeur, don't let the universe end
without choosing one side or the other!
Iceman


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PE-WJ-Diplo [Kalvis]: Speech
Date:Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:48:31 +0000

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I would like to send message to non-alliance leaders as well. TS is an
alliance that has four members, so the Iceman's proposal to ally with
them is more than strange (maybe he meant something else). SA is not
aggresive - TS started this war. Yes, I was stupid enough to present
them with an excuse for this - for those that do not know, I was
destroying weaklings. Ofcourse I have million excuses for this, but
most of them have already been pointed out, so no need to repeat
myself.
Now regarding James. His messages amused me in the begining, iritated
me in the middle and seem to leave me ignorant in the end. The morals
he is standing for are nothing more than double standards. Attack
someone (I attacked Ockerboy) and he will urge to destroy you ("in the
name of justice"). Attack someone (ChickenLittle attacked Hermis by
breaking peace treaty) and he finds it amusing (there is nothing wrong
with breaking treaties in his morals). So James, I beg you - stop your
demagogy.
And in the end, I think this game is very intresting to play now
because of this war. And if a new alliance would emerge it would be
even more intresting. So non-alliance leaders unite and crush us. I
don't know how it is in the rest of the world, but wisdom of my
ancestors says: kur du pesasi, trecias laimi. (Where two fight, third
becomes the winner).


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PE-WJ-Diplo [Iceman]: Thanks Kalvis!
Date:Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:39:16 +0000

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Kalvis, et al....
Thanks for helping making my point - perhaps inadvertantly...  While
certainly I would accept and be delighted with all the non-aligned
nations joining TS and helping to eliminate SA, that was not the
intention of my diatribe - my intention was to get those same
non-aligned nations to consider joining with either AS or TS in their
positions, consider forming that third major alliance your refer to,
or consider than standing idle isn't productive in this Universe...
(No offense is intended here, Aachaan is merely an example...  A good
example for these purposes because of his size!)
Take Aachaan for example...  His size would allow either SA or TS to
quickly move into a victory condition state.  SA even has a slot left
that could allow him to slip into their alliance!  That's fine, and
I'd certainly like him to consider his options...  As I would all the
other nations in this Universe...
But - it IS an alliance game; an alliance is required to claim
victory!  Right now, there is only SA and TS which appear potentially
able to eventually make that claim!  A third major alliance would
makes things even more interesting!  Right now, I have not had a
message from Aachaan since Turn-35, although I have sent him several. 
It *seems* that SA has had some contact with Aachaan, at least; that
scares me!  I *think* it's safe to assume that Aachaan is interested
in his own claim to victory, however that turns out!  If Aachaan was
to form this third alliance, and we continue to beat each other up,
he'll be able to pick over our depleted nations!  Either SA or TS
would require assistance to even survive...
So, I wanted to make sure all the non-aligned nations thought these
things out...  It's also possible Aachaan's intentions are not
victory, but longevity...  He could eventually be in the position that
no other nations or alliances could challenge him; forcing this
Universe into a stalemate...  That's an intriguing potential as
well...
However, since my 'read between the lines' message was for SA to
consider these, that seems to have come through!  Yes, the Universe is
a more interesting place for our battles - who is right or wrong,
agressor or not, etc. is moot and in the histories for any to
interprut as they like - but TS was formed to win, SA was formed to
keep TS from winning, and that third alliance will potentially be
formed to crush us both!  It's not only the non-aligned nations that
need to pick well, it's ALL of us!!!
Iceman


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PE-WJ-Diplo [Iceman]: Remember...
Date:Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:09:49 +0000

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Hi all...
I apologize for going over my quota for diplomatic messages this turn,
but I hope this will be deemed ok...

Please all, take a couple of minutes today and remember those that
gave their lives so that we are now able to live in a world where we
can play games such as Power's Edge...

Iceman